Backup Accounts

s a · 8 Sep 2003, 12:02 AM

I notice a number of FM paid users seem to have an additional paid account as well. I'm guessing this is mainly to serve as a backup option in case of downtime ?

1. Why not use a free Yahoo account to serve as backup in the rare case of a problem?

2. Any suggestions for a second paid account (perhaps something that complements FM's features rather than one that shares the same features )?

Drencrom · 8 Sep 2003, 12:28 AM

I for one do not have an additional paid account. I use a free GMX account as backup.

**Sherry** · 8 Sep 2003, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andornot
I notice a number of FM paid users seem to have an additional paid account as well. I'm guessing this is mainly to serve as a backup option in case of downtime ?

I'm not sure the reason for 2 accounts is for backup. Some may want 2 accounts for different "types" of mail. I use one for Business and one for personal. Thinking of it that way, it would makes sense to want both accounts at FM if you like FM better than any other service.

Sherry

fmfan · 8 Sep 2003, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sherry
... Some may want 2 accounts for different "types" of mail. I use one for Business and one for personal. Thinking of it that way, it would makes sense to want both accounts at FM if you like FM better than any other service.

...

Basic reason here - find FastMail.fm very reasonably priced for basic storage space,
BW allotment and features for each account level and, again, very reasonably priced
for any + storage space, + BW allotment or the other available options per account level.

So, have a few for few different purposes. Do have aliases each account, but prefer some
separate or individual accounts.

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oysterquartz · 8 Sep 2003, 03:49 AM

I have several paid accounts. I first signed up to Runbox on a 3 year term (quite happy!) then found fastmail.fm, mailsnare.net, oddpost.com, mailblocks.com (cheap 3 years of $9.99 total).

In most cases I wanted to support these small growing companies that were showing some initiative in this field.

I couldn't see having 2 paid accounts at one provider personally. All have there good and "not so" good points comparatively, so for me it is a matter of personal preference if one were to only choose one provider. If I were to start again and have two acounts, it would be difficult to decide which ones to keep and which to jetison

oysterquartz · 8 Sep 2003, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fmfan
Basic reason here - find FastMail.fm very reasonably priced for basic storage space,
BW allotment and features for each account level and, again, very reasonably priced
for any + storage space, + BW allotment or the other available options per account level.

So, have a few for few different purposes. Do have aliases each account, but prefer some
separate or individual accounts.

Actually, FM is relatively expensive for BW, storage space, and additional features (i.e. virtual hosting) compared compared to some of its competitors.

fmfan · 8 Sep 2003, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oysterquartz
Actually, FM is relatively expensive for BW, storage space, and additional features (i.e. virtual hosting) compared compared to some of its competitors.

Have not found 16MB storage, IMAP, SMTP, mail forwarding for $14.95 one-time.

And been in business for a couple, few years.

Guess just missed it so far &nbsp

s a · 8 Sep 2003, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fmfan
Have not found 16MB storage, IMAP, SMTP, mail forwarding for $14.95 one-time.

The member account is a great buy. I'm sure OQ meant the Full and enhanced accounts.

Isn't the point of a Full/Enhanced account that you can have aliases (and personalities) to deal with both personal and work email? So i'm not sure i see the point of separate email accounts (unless you have the free or member accounts).

fmfan · 8 Sep 2003, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andornot
... (unless you have the free or member accounts).

Enhanced where get much email.

Others Member - just easier for me to keep tabs on things
- have *so* many folders Enhanced - though *should* suffice
- just easier for me, my preference - that's all - and one-time
&nbsp fee, etc., etc.

hadaso · 8 Sep 2003, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andornot
1. Why not use a free Yahoo account to serve as backup in the rare case of a problem?

It depends on what kind of "backup" functionality you need.

If it's just for sending email then you don't even need to keep a free account. When the need arises and you need to send something while FastMail is down then you can open a webmail account somewhere and send. Most people can also have an email account from their ISP, and it can be used to send and recive in case of emergency.

But if you want access to your email when fastmail is down, then you need to regularly forward all your email to a second account somewhere else, and that account should be able to handle the amount of email you receive at fastmail. Then a free account may not be able to do the job.

If you also want to recieve the email sent to you and be able to read it when FastMail is down, that's a much more difficult project, and there are at least two active threads on this topic right now!

bitequator · 8 Sep 2003, 10:25 AM

And if you want your Enhanced FM account to be the central store of all your mail (organized via folders, etc), you'd want to be able to forward or pop those mails routed to the backup account back to FM after the downtime. The free Yahoo doesn't support pop3 access though...

I ended up with MailSnare multipak Enhanced accounts for our secondary mail (though Runbox's multipak/multi-year pricing is a VERY good deal!). Also still have multiple paid accts at each of Yahoo Plus, GoDaddy Deluxe, eNom, various ISPs, etc (and single test accts at Oddpost, etc), but they're either too limited or too expensive to continue renewing. It was a close call w/ Runbox, but 2 of our regular usernames were already taken there, plus Edwin had said MailSnare's servers are in my town (only partially turns out)...

For now we use our MailSnare for backup MX (it also has a lot of space and SA/AV), backup SMTP on email clients (multiple ports & SSL), webmail HTML composition, etc... We also have our individual own-domains in another TLD routing there.

BTW, I found out MailSnare lets you buy as much extra storage as you want ($25 one-time fee per extra 250MB)? So I could theoretically add more space indefinitely for our heaviest user (who's currently constrained by FM's 650MB max limit), but of course he won't need as much space just for the backup acct...

**ReuvenNY** · 9 Sep 2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andornot
I notice a number of FM paid users seem to have an additional paid account as well. I'm guessing this is mainly to serve as a backup option in case of downtime ?

1. Why not use a free Yahoo account to serve as backup in the rare case of a problem?

2. Any suggestions for a second paid account (perhaps something that complements FM's features rather than one that shares the same features )?

Those extra cautious users would not want to depend on a free account that could be changed at any time by the company providing the service. Also, I would want an account that is comparable in size and features.

My choices? Mailsnare and Runbox.

mklose · 10 Sep 2003, 07:23 AM

I have 2 paid accounts:

fastmail (enhanced) and GMX (pro)

GMX I mainly use for voicemail and SMS notifications. All fastmail email that meet certain criteria (an is very very probably not spam or a newsletter) is forwarded there so that I can have the email read to me on the phone. Nice thing is, it detects the language (german or english) automatically and reads the email to me in the right language.

Also, all incoming voice messages (I use it as the voicemail for my cell phone) get saved as a .wav file there. A notification is also sent to my fastmail account so I know even with my cell phone off, that I have a message.

GMX (pro, 2.99 a month) features: Unified messaging (only for main inbox though), 100MB, IMAP is available since a few months, they also have spam assassin, they have auto purging folders, pretty powerful but gui only filters, a notification feauture that rocks, HTML composition if needed. For an additional 2 Euros a month, you also get file storage.

Why my fastmail account is still my primary account:

* 100 MB is maximum at GMX, I need more already, and will need about 5%-10% more storage space per year,

* The great user interface which rivals any email program (it is just so powerful)

* The Fastmail team

* Sieve

* SOAP support (just in case I do want to code something cool for my email)

*EDIT* - you get 250MB at GMX - learnt something new

oysterquartz · 10 Sep 2003, 08:07 AM

mklose,

Is GMX Pro only available for German nationals? I seem to recall GMX changing its terms/pricing structure last year. I still have an account there "free" and the new service seems pretty competitive ...

bitequator · 10 Sep 2003, 06:01 PM

So Euro converted, GMX Pro is US$3.36/month (about US$40/year) and gives you 250MB? Not bad, but as I heard it's German-language only

The FM user w/ 650MB storage space I mentioned above now has 275MB allocated for his MailSnare account as well...

8 Sep 2003, 12:02 AM	#1
s a Master of the @ Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,910	Backup Accounts I notice a number of FM paid users seem to have an additional paid account as well. I'm guessing this is mainly to serve as a backup option in case of downtime ? 1. Why not use a free Yahoo account to serve as backup in the rare case of a problem? 2. Any suggestions for a second paid account (perhaps something that complements FM's features rather than one that shares the same features )?

8 Sep 2003, 10:25 AM	#11
bitequator The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,978	And if you want your Enhanced FM account to be the central store of all your mail (organized via folders, etc), you'd want to be able to forward or pop those mails routed to the backup account back to FM after the downtime. The free Yahoo doesn't support pop3 access though... I ended up with MailSnare multipak Enhanced accounts for our secondary mail (though Runbox's multipak/multi-year pricing is a VERY good deal!). Also still have multiple paid accts at each of Yahoo Plus, GoDaddy Deluxe, eNom, various ISPs, etc (and single test accts at Oddpost, etc), but they're either too limited or too expensive to continue renewing. It was a close call w/ Runbox, but 2 of our regular usernames were already taken there, plus Edwin had said MailSnare's servers are in my town (only partially turns out)... For now we use our MailSnare for backup MX (it also has a lot of space and SA/AV), backup SMTP on email clients (multiple ports & SSL), webmail HTML composition, etc... We also have our individual own-domains in another TLD routing there. BTW, I found out MailSnare lets you buy as much extra storage as you want ($25 one-time fee per extra 250MB)? So I could theoretically add more space indefinitely for our heaviest user (who's currently constrained by FM's 650MB max limit), but of course he won't need as much space just for the backup acct... Last edited by bitequator : 8 Sep 2003 at 10:31 AM.

10 Sep 2003, 07:23 AM	#13
mklose Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 693	I have 2 paid accounts: fastmail (enhanced) and GMX (pro) GMX I mainly use for voicemail and SMS notifications. All fastmail email that meet certain criteria (an is very very probably not spam or a newsletter) is forwarded there so that I can have the email read to me on the phone. Nice thing is, it detects the language (german or english) automatically and reads the email to me in the right language. Also, all incoming voice messages (I use it as the voicemail for my cell phone) get saved as a .wav file there. A notification is also sent to my fastmail account so I know even with my cell phone off, that I have a message. GMX (pro, 2.99 a month) features: Unified messaging (only for main inbox though), 100MB, IMAP is available since a few months, they also have spam assassin, they have auto purging folders, pretty powerful but gui only filters, a notification feauture that rocks, HTML composition if needed. For an additional 2 Euros a month, you also get file storage. Why my fastmail account is still my primary account: * 100 MB is maximum at GMX, I need more already, and will need about 5%-10% more storage space per year, * The great user interface which rivals any email program (it is just so powerful) * The Fastmail team * Sieve * SOAP support (just in case I do want to code something cool for my email) EDIT - you get 250MB at GMX - learnt something new Last edited by mklose : 10 Sep 2003 at 07:25 AM.

8 Sep 2003, 12:28 AM	#2
Drencrom Master of the @ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ultima Thule Posts: 1,657	I for one do not have an additional paid account. I use a free GMX account as backup.

8 Sep 2003, 03:49 AM	#5
oysterquartz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Athens Posts: 2,402	I have several paid accounts. I first signed up to Runbox on a 3 year term (quite happy!) then found fastmail.fm, mailsnare.net, oddpost.com, mailblocks.com (cheap 3 years of $9.99 total). In most cases I wanted to support these small growing companies that were showing some initiative in this field. I couldn't see having 2 paid accounts at one provider personally. All have there good and "not so" good points comparatively, so for me it is a matter of personal preference if one were to only choose one provider. If I were to start again and have two acounts, it would be difficult to decide which ones to keep and which to jetison

10 Sep 2003, 08:07 AM	#14
oysterquartz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Athens Posts: 2,402	mklose, Is GMX Pro only available for German nationals? I seem to recall GMX changing its terms/pricing structure last year. I still have an account there "free" and the new service seems pretty competitive ...

10 Sep 2003, 06:01 PM	#15
bitequator The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,978	So Euro converted, GMX Pro is US$3.36/month (about US$40/year) and gives you 250MB? Not bad, but as I heard it's German-language only The FM user w/ 650MB storage space I mentioned above now has 275MB allocated for his MailSnare account as well...