bmail.ag is new to me

[Avion]

I haven't got the time or the inclination to watch all of this, but some may find it of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/live/X0TAd-4eIb8

[manulpow]

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[Tsunami]

Originally Posted by webecedarian

What's the .ag?

It is the ccTLD of the country Antigua & Barbuda. It's a small archipelago in the Caribbean.

.AG used to be popular in Germany as well, as "AG" is a legal form of entity that companies can use. Compare it to "non-profit" or "ltd" and such in English. In German, AG is a legal title for some companies, so the .ag domain was used relatively often there too.



I lost my curiosity a bit with the Epstein- and Clinton-related domains you can choose from. I think cashing in on other people's misery, reputation or crimes is a bit shameless. I prefer not to be associated with a provider that thinks it's OK to make money of such things. It's about ethics. There's enough good email providers, so why would I go with a provider that thinks it's OK to cash in on someone who is convicted of human trafficking and sex exploitation? I'll skip this provider.

[frtrsysli]

Originally Posted by Tsunami

I lost my curiosity a bit with the Epstein- and Clinton-related domains you can choose from. I think cashing in on other people's misery, reputation or crimes is a bit shameless. I prefer not to be associated with a provider that thinks it's OK to make money of such things. It's about ethics. There's enough good email providers, so why would I go with a provider that thinks it's OK to cash in on someone who is convicted of human trafficking and sex exploitation? I'll skip this provider.

This is a really good point. But, if we go a bit further...

G -> massive surveillance revealed in lawsuits
Out/Hot -> well, now almost everyone knows Bill Gates and Epstein...
tuta -> cooperate with...
protonmail -> cooperate with...

Not many would be left.

[TenFour]

So give us some examples of "massive surveillance revealed in lawsuits." Are you talking about Gmail giving information to governments? Like every other email provider in existence, because that's the law?

[frtrsysli]

Originally Posted by TenFour

So give us some examples of "massive surveillance revealed in lawsuits." Are you talking about Gmail giving information to governments? Like every other email provider in existence, because that's the law?

https://apnews.com/article/google-smartphone-surveillance-verdict-damages-c93e0150089fd47ec396f1d0abacb4a8

Google facing $425.7 million in damages for nearly a decade of improper smartphone snooping

Updated 10:30 PM GMT, September 4, 2025

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dr91z0g4zo

Google told to pay $425m in privacy lawsuit - BBC
A US federal court has told Google to pay $425m (?316.3m) for breaching users' privacy by collecting data from millions of users even after they had turned off a tracking feature in their Google ...

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...t/88403400007/

Google settles 2 lawsuits. How much are they paying? - USA TODAY
Jan 28, 2026Google settled two lawsuits stemming from data privacy claims. See how much they are paying out.

[TenFour]

Thanks. Good information. I was thinking "Gmail" and not "Google" so imagining you were referring to Gmail accounts being handed over to authorities. In any case, it points out how every provider can be viewed through a political or paranoid lens if you wish to. In this case "surveillance" refers to Google doing what Google does--collecting app data to target ads. I would argue that so does Apple, Microsoft, and a million apps we all use. It is impossible to escape it. OTOH the biggest danger most of us face is not targeted ads but instead phishing and other email attacks tricking us into giving up passwords and maybe even control of our device. Google might send us ads, but does your email provider have robust protection against spam, phishing, malware, and other hackery? That's what will get you.

[frtrsysli]

I don't think most people would agree that target-ads are G's sole purpose. It's revealed in those lawsuits that G's been manipulating users' phone settings exactly at the device level and abusing users' privacy for the last at least ten years. It would be silly for G to trespass on user privacy at the device level for such a long time just to gain some target-ads advantage, while Apple and Microsoft choose not to be so blatant. What our ordinary people can see is only what's been made public...

[TenFour]

So what do you think Google's purpose is?

[hadaso]

Originally Posted by frtrsysli

...It would be silly for G to trespass on user privacy at the device level for such a long time just to gain some target-ads advantage, while Apple and Microsoft choose not to be so blatant. ...

Apple sells hardware. Microsoft sells software. Google sells ad placement.

[frtrsysli]

I have no idea... maybe digging in those reports will help you find out more. But honestly, I have no interests. Btw, G also sells hardware.

[Bamb0]

Originally Posted by TenFour

So what do you think Google's purpose is?

Nothing good believe me!!

[jeffpan]

Was bmail.ag created by Koreans? No wonder its style looks similar to naver.com.

[Bamb0]

Ya probably was!