Beta testing - help required - Page 4

icework_bind · 1 May 2012, 10:30 AM

I've organised my mail with folders, and hidden them so they only appear if I have new messages. Some, like trash, I've left completely hidden.

In the old interface I can click in the 'search folders' search box, and all my hidden folders appear. In the new interface, I can't make the hidden folder appear, except by changing the folder options.

I've been accessing the individual folders via the address bar, but this doesn't work so well if say, I forget that 'Trash' is spelt with a capital.

I think the new interface is very smart and fast. Like it a lot.

neilj · 1 May 2012, 12:51 PM

The search folder bar is still accessible, but via a keyboard shortcut only: 'g' (as in goto).

Neil.

gardenweed · 1 May 2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilj

The search folder bar is still accessible, but via a keyboard shortcut only: 'g' (as in goto).

Neil.

Yes. But clicking in the search box does not cause the hidden folders to become revealed.

neilj · 1 May 2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gardenweed

Yes. But clicking in the search box does not cause the hidden folders to become revealed.

No, pressing 'g' to show the folder search box will also reveal any hidden folders.

gardenweed · 1 May 2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilj

No, pressing 'g' to show the folder search box will also reveal any hidden folders.

You are right. I stand corrected.

I didn't spot this because my hidden folder is the Junk Mail folder, which in the new interface is shown as the Spam folder ie the new interface changes its name.

So when Junk Mail did not re-appear I thought it was not working

This brings me back to my other post about folder name changes...
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...0&postcount=44

**Shelded** · 1 May 2012, 03:24 PM

I really hope you're not right about the direction these folder names are going. It would make it seem some developer doesn't know what system folder names are for. I suppose they'll take it on themselves to edit all our custom scripts to fix the filing errors? What about plus-addresses which use them, must we go change those addresses whereever they are used? Will the Junk Mail folder be called Spam (incorrect, owned by Hormel) or spam (correct, but the only lowercase system folder).

I guess "it's what most people like" so that's what we'll get eh.

Mystakill · 1 May 2012, 08:48 PM

@Shelded:

Unfortunately, Opera's thinking appears to be "power users be damned; we're implementing what 'most people like' instead (again)."

gcrouse · 5 May 2012, 05:41 AM

Folder sorting is case sensitive now - unlike the old interface.

n5bb · 5 May 2012, 12:05 PM

Welcome to the EMD Forums, gcrouse!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcrouse

Folder sorting is case sensitive now - unlike the old interface.

I'm assuming you are comparing the subject of this thread (beta.fastmail.fm AJAX interface) to the current standard interface (www.fastmail.fm), not the old deprecated interface (old.fastmail.fm).

You are correct if you meant the display sorting of the folder names (set to the same sort level) on the main Mail screen.

In the current (www.fastmail.fm) interface, the capitalization is ignored unless you create two identically named folders with capitalization different (such as test and Test), where the lower case is shown before the upper case variant.
In the beta AJAX (beta.fastmail.fm) interface, the capitalized folders are all shown before the lowercase folders (at the same sorting level).

When searching, I don't see any folder case sensitivity in the beta AJAX interface (beta.fastmail.fm). There are two places you can search for a folder in the main Mail screen:

Press the "g" key: This opens up a folder search dialog. The case of your entry is ignored in this search.
Click the "Move To" button at the top, which opens up a folder search dialog. The case of your entry is ignored in this search.

I will send an email to Fastmail staff and see about the main Mail screen folder sorting. It would be nice for these to match between the current and beta AJAX interfaces.

Bill

gcrouse · 6 May 2012, 04:04 AM

Yes, display sorting of the folder names.

Thanks.

n5bb · 6 May 2012, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcrouse

Yes, display sorting of the folder names.

Rob at Fastmail just sent me a note saying that a ticket has been created to fix this.

Bill

BriPink · 19 May 2012, 06:16 AM

I see how to report messages as Spam in the AJAX UI, but I can't figure out how to report a message as non-Spam. The old UI has a special "Report Non-Spam" button at the top of the spam folder that removes the spam designation and moves it to the Inbox. In contrast, selecting "Move to Inbox" in the AJAX UI keeps the message marked as Spam. Any hints?

drew · 19 May 2012, 06:25 AM

I have noticed this one too and dearly hope they care to fix it.

We need to be able to tell that a wanted email is no spam.

neilj · 19 May 2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BriPink

I see how to report messages as Spam in the AJAX UI, but I can't figure out how to report a message as non-Spam. Any hints?

"Move to Inbox" (or indeed using the "Move to" folder to move the message to any other folder) will automatically report it as non-spam to the bayes database.

CyberDyne · 19 May 2012, 06:07 PM

I have on a number of occasions replied to an email sent to an alias, only to find out later that my reply was actually sent from my default personality, not the alias to which the original email was sent. Very disappointing and this alone has put me off using the Ajax UI.

ie: the Account Preferences option: From when replying "Best personality" does not always work so I have had to switch the option to: From when replying "Always original"

1 May 2012, 10:30 AM	#46
icework_bind Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9	Hidden Folders I've organised my mail with folders, and hidden them so they only appear if I have new messages. Some, like trash, I've left completely hidden. In the old interface I can click in the 'search folders' search box, and all my hidden folders appear. In the new interface, I can't make the hidden folder appear, except by changing the folder options. I've been accessing the individual folders via the address bar, but this doesn't work so well if say, I forget that 'Trash' is spelt with a capital. I think the new interface is very smart and fast. Like it a lot.

5 May 2012, 05:41 AM	#53
gcrouse Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 18	Folder sorting Folder sorting is case sensitive now - unlike the old interface.

6 May 2012, 04:04 AM	#55
gcrouse Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 18	Sorting Capitalization Yes, display sorting of the folder names. Thanks.

19 May 2012, 06:16 AM	#57
BriPink Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2	Reporting non-spam I see how to report messages as Spam in the AJAX UI, but I can't figure out how to report a message as non-Spam. The old UI has a special "Report Non-Spam" button at the top of the spam folder that removes the spam designation and moves it to the Inbox. In contrast, selecting "Move to Inbox" in the AJAX UI keeps the message marked as Spam. Any hints?

1 May 2012, 12:51 PM	#47
neilj Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 971 Representative of: Fastmail.fm	The search folder bar is still accessible, but via a keyboard shortcut only: 'g' (as in goto). Neil.

1 May 2012, 03:24 PM	#51
Shelded Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USA Northwest Posts: 3,853	I really hope you're not right about the direction these folder names are going. It would make it seem some developer doesn't know what system folder names are for. I suppose they'll take it on themselves to edit all our custom scripts to fix the filing errors? What about plus-addresses which use them, must we go change those addresses whereever they are used? Will the Junk Mail folder be called Spam (incorrect, owned by Hormel) or spam (correct, but the only lowercase system folder). I guess "it's what most people like" so that's what we'll get eh.

1 May 2012, 08:48 PM	#52
Mystakill Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD (USA) Posts: 836	@Shelded: Unfortunately, Opera's thinking appears to be "power users be damned; we're implementing what 'most people like' instead (again)."

19 May 2012, 06:25 AM	#58
drew The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,626	I have noticed this one too and dearly hope they care to fix it. We need to be able to tell that a wanted email is no spam.

19 May 2012, 06:07 PM	#60
CyberDyne Master of the @ Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,603	I have on a number of occasions replied to an email sent to an alias, only to find out later that my reply was actually sent from my default personality, not the alias to which the original email was sent. Very disappointing and this alone has put me off using the Ajax UI. ie: the Account Preferences option: From when replying "Best personality" does not always work so I have had to switch the option to: From when replying "Always original"