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faldringham 14 May 2026 05:07 AM

Help with regular expressions?
 
I want to filter out emails that contain any of the words "Trash", "Reminder", or "Landscaping" in the subject. How to do that? I have tried several variations of

(?i)(trash|reminder|landscaping)

with <Subject> <matches regular expression>

in the no-preview rules setup. Can't get it to work.
Do I need quotation marks? No quotation marks? Am I indicating case-insensitive incorrectly? Do I need to use dot-asterisk(s) to indicate that anything can precede (or follow) the matching term?

JeremyNicoll 14 May 2026 06:50 AM

You don't need quotes.
You don't have to indicate case insensitivity.
You don't need leading or trailing dot asterisk

Just: (trash|reminder|landscaping) should work.


Whn googling for help bear in mind that Sieve (which is the language that the filter rules get translated into from what you specify in the FM GUI) uses "POSIX" regexes. It's not PCRE.

You might find this useful: https://www.regular-expressions.info/posix.html

Also: https://www.regular-expressions.info/refflavors.html ... which allows you to follow a link to a sub-topic (eg character classes) & will then offer you the chance to nominate two flavours of regex (eg PCRE if you know that well) & POSIX ... & let you see to what extent those flavours of regex implement various things.


I should add that - if you look at the Sieve rules generated from the GUI - you'll see some escaping of characters - which you don't (as far as I know ) need to do yourself in your GUI rules - indeed if you do escape stuff in the GUI it'll (probably) be doubled in what's generated. The distinction matters because most of the advice on the internet for this sort of filtering (Sieve) is for people writing rules directly in Sieve (which in fact FM's system allows you to do if you need to).

If there's any chance that you'd want to write your own Sieve rules you really need to read the RFCs (technical specs for lots of internet stuff) for Sieve ... which are hard going if you've not got an academic Computing background. These include:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3028 the original Sieve RFC, made obsolete by

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5228 a newer base Sieve specification

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2244 describes comparators, eg for testing INTEGERS

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3431 adds: counting and value-comparison tests; see rfc5231 too

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5173 adds: testing of BODY contents

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5229 adds: "Variables" support

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5231 .... improves rfc3431

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5293 adds: "editheader" support to add/delete headers

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5429 adds: REJECT and extended EREJECT

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6785 adds: IMAP

faldringham 14 May 2026 10:50 PM

Thanks. I will give it another try.

faldringham 23 May 2026 01:02 AM

I tried the above, but it still wasn't working.

My goal was to send the matching emails directly to Trash, but instead they kept going to Spam.

Reviewing the automatically generated Sieve rules, I noticed that any rules I was adding using the routine custom-rules template were being added after the automatic Spam screening rules. So I gave up on the template and added a custom Sieve rule at the beginning, before the automatic Spam screen. So far, that seems to have fixed the problem.

I would give the Help information on FastMail's website a low grade in this area, as the problem I had been experiencing would seem to be a pretty common issue--yet I didn't see information on how to use the standard rules template to send emails to Trash, bypassing Spam screening, until I really dug into the weeds.

I wish they would spend some of the resources they use for periodically "upgrading" the user interface (with changes I usually don't want or need) on polishing the Help info instead.

This issue of having the template-generated rules be ignored and getting unwanted emails sent again and again to Spam has been annoying me for years, actually.

faldringham 23 May 2026 01:07 AM

(I suppose I should add that while I don't have an academic computing background, I write scripts in my spare time all the time--web browser extensions in Javascript, other scripts in Python, and PowerShell, and in the past Swift and AppleScript. I am very familiar with regular expressions in general, but had never worked with the Sieve script syntax before now.)


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